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Functions to try out, refresh
I suggest we switch up some of our "functions to try out", as they are a bit dated and not all the most interesting to try. If you have suggestions of functions that casual users would find interesting to try (including any currently listed), please add them to the list below. --99of9 (talk) 02:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- is prime (Z12427): Checks if the provided integer is prime or not.
- English cardinal (Z13587): expresses a natural number in English words
- n^n (Z13809): raises a natural number to the power of itself
- is pangram (Latin alphabet) (Z12626): Checks whether a string of characters possesses every letter from the Latin alphabet at least once
- get English weekday from date (Z13163): returns the weekday as a string when given a date as year, month and day of the month
- Caesar cipher (Latin alphabet) (Z12812): rotates letters in the Latin alphabet forward by a defined number of places
- remove duplicates (Z13078): remove second and subsequent duplicate items without changing the order of the list
99of9 (talk) 02:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- These are good suggestions, I don't think they are too complex or confusing to newcomers and provide a good general idea of what the project is about. Philipnelson99 (talk) 04:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- +1, these seem great. Maybe we should continue to limit it to five, though? Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 08:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- There are 10 at the moment. I'm ambivalent about how many there should be, as long as they're good options. --99of9 (talk) 10:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Good idea. We should probably have a page dedicated to function exploration and link to that instead of the catalogue.
- Functions that have links on the Main Page should have good performance characteristics. I’m not sure is prime (Z12427) and English cardinal (Z13587) are good candidates, because new users might be inclined to try a large number. Of those listed, I should think remove duplicates (Z13078) would be okay (because setting up long lists would require significant effort from the user) and get English weekday from date (Z13163) might be fine if we could limit the year entered and validate the month and day numbers.
- It would be good if the latest suitable function of the week could be included. GrounderUK (talk) 08:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Adding function of the week sounds good if we're ready to constantly update it. IMO the performance of all the ones you picked is reasonable, even for large numbers (indeed they are more interesting with large numbers). But I guess it depends how many visitors click the links. Personally I'd be happy to give someone 10 seconds of CPU if they wanted to give us a prime number challenge. The one that fails large numbers is n^n (Z13809) so maybe we shoulds replace that. --99of9 (talk) 10:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hah, yes… I wasn’t worried about the CPU so much as visitor disappointment (because you only get one chance to make a first impression). If we go for Function of the week, I expect it would be transcluded (somehow @Sannita (WMF)) and link to the archive. The casual WikiWanderer might assume it’s our equivalent of Featured Article, however…🤔🤷♂️ GrounderUK (talk) 11:19, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- @GrounderUK That's a good idea, but I think it'd be better if the community takes the lead on this. Function of the week is still not community-driven (but it will be in the future), so I think it'd be better if proposals for the main page come from the community. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 18:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I think @99of9 counts as community… It would perhaps be better to delay including FOTW until the latest featured function is one proposed by the community, but I’m happy either way. GrounderUK (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- @GrounderUK That's a good idea, but I think it'd be better if the community takes the lead on this. Function of the week is still not community-driven (but it will be in the future), so I think it'd be better if proposals for the main page come from the community. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 18:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hah, yes… I wasn’t worried about the CPU so much as visitor disappointment (because you only get one chance to make a first impression). If we go for Function of the week, I expect it would be transcluded (somehow @Sannita (WMF)) and link to the archive. The casual WikiWanderer might assume it’s our equivalent of Featured Article, however…🤔🤷♂️ GrounderUK (talk) 11:19, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Adding function of the week sounds good if we're ready to constantly update it. IMO the performance of all the ones you picked is reasonable, even for large numbers (indeed they are more interesting with large numbers). But I guess it depends how many visitors click the links. Personally I'd be happy to give someone 10 seconds of CPU if they wanted to give us a prime number challenge. The one that fails large numbers is n^n (Z13809) so maybe we shoulds replace that. --99of9 (talk) 10:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)